7 Response(s)

1. MikeRider says : July 7, 2014 I disagree with the reason for this change. In my opinion there is a well-established hierarchy of “authority” (from highest to lowest) – show prize list (if printed), omnibus, rulebook. I think that if something is clearly stated in the show’s prize list, it need not be published in the omnibus as well. I think that if shows elect not to publish a prize list, then it is acceptable to publish house rules in omnibus.

2. Jeff Morse says : August 24, 2014 MIke, I’d draw your attention to the Approval of Competitions” section of the Rulebook, wherein we find Art 4.3, which says: Information published in the Omnibus will take priority over information in the Prize List in the case of conflicting information. Errors in the Omnibus should be noted in the Prize List as errors. With the new Omnibus listing process beginning mid September as the result of new web site software employed by ADS, I think even more emphasis will begin to be placed on the Omnibus Listing as the authority for any show. I also think a review of the entire Omnibus/prize list relationship is in order. I think both can co-exist but that a more formal description of their exact roles and relationship would be a good thing in the long run.

3. Laurie Renda says : September 17, 2014 I disagree with the change also. I am ok with a house class having a different name but not an explanation of all rules in Omnibus. That is what the prize list is for. What if you have a long explanation of house rules and there isn’t room on the omnibus listing? Do you get an extra page? Depending on show date the omnibus listing is done 9 months in advance before all show details are necessarily figured out. I had a difficult time with having to submit my listing so far in advance and with new location 2 years in a row I had so many unknowns that I could not figure out that far in advance.

4. Susan Koso says : September 26, 2014 Too much detail for the Omnibus listing….unless there is no prize list. Maybe shows running “house rules” class should be required to have a prize list.

5. MikeRider says : October 1, 2014 Jeff, Laurie & Susan – I agree that the “house rules” need to be clearly printed somewhere – here’s my take on the Omnibus/Prize List relationship – many years ago (before the internet age) – shows were charged with printing and mailing prize lists which became somewhat cost prohibitive. The ADS came up with a creative strategy to solve this problem – the Omnibus which listed vital information about each show and could, for some events, stand in place of the printed prize list. I find the structure of the Omnibus helpful for a number of things, but not great for listing specific conditions that are encountered at each show (the same goes for the ADS entry form) – with modern printing/online documentation availability and the negligble cost of online distribution of show prize lists, I find it wise for shows to publish their own prize lists and save space on ADS omnibus for vital information.

6. Kail Palmer Miller says : October 5, 2014 I agree with Mike if the show has a prize list it can be posted there, if not omnibus is fine. As a Judge and Td I fine its much easier to go off the prize list. Also I feel most competitors use prize list and that should take precedence.

7. mary anne boyden says : October 7, 2014 The prize list can be posted as Mike said. The prize list is easier to reference as a judge and as a competitor I believe.

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