RCS2014#38 – Eliminate Training Level Elimination

2014 RCS #
Eliminate Training Level Elimination
Date Received
Pao Lin Hatch
Change Date
Next Rulebook
Closed for comments: 01Sep13
CDC – Not Recommended: 25Jun13
Initial Posting: 01Jun13

The elimination of the Combined Driving Rule determination of ELIMINATION in the Training division of all ADTs, HDS, CDE and Continuous Drives. Why? These are novices! You are trying to get more people into the sport, not frustrate them and chase them away! Add penalty time, add penalty points, etc.; they’ll get the message since they most likely will not pin but at least they walk away with a learning experience. If they E on the 1 or 2st phase (e.g. cones), why should they even come back on the 3rd day to compete at the marathon? I’m sure some do and some do not, walking away with disbelief and frustration that they have been eliminated. THE BIG E should come at the Intermediate/Prelim level, those folks know better.

14 Response(s)

  1. rules says :

    July 23, 2013

    CDC Reason for ‘Not Recommended’:
    Training Division in Combined Driving requires at least a basic understanding of the sport in order to compete safely and fairly, and that includes knowledge of the rules.

  2. chateaulog says :

    August 2, 2013

    disagree; it is important that they learn the rules in training level and not in prelim. And many rules are for safety.

  3. Marjean McIntyre says :

    August 5, 2013

    Disagree. They need to learn the rules. The important thing is how the elimination is handled by the officials.

  4. cmoss41 says :

    August 5, 2013

    Disagree with this Proposal. The rules are readily available for reveiw. Most organizers and officials are very open to questions and clarifications for newbies. Training is the level to learn.

  5. nlindley says :

    August 5, 2013

    Disagree. Not eliminating someone who should have eliminated would not be fair to other competitors. Many competitions already allow “E” competitors to carry on and complete their events, without final score.

  6. hoofnit says :

    August 6, 2013

    I concur with the CDC – eliminated competitors can continue the the remaining competitions. The best way to learn is to make a mistake.

  7. bridgesd says :

    August 6, 2013

    Getting the Big E (talking from experience) is a learning experience, especially if the TD handles it in the right way. Individuals in Training need to learn the rules and accept responsibility for their actions if they violate those rules. All competitions I have been at have allowed competitors that eliminated in cones to complete the marathon.

  8. keithy says :

    August 6, 2013

    I do not support this change.
    The rules are there to provide an even playing field for all competitors at all levels.
    The elimination is part of the learning process.
    A proper explanation of the elimination by the official(s) makes the difference between a frustrated competitor and a competitor that accepts and learns from the mistake.

  9. cathyjo76 says :

    August 11, 2013

    I disagree with this change.

  10. Iris says :

    August 13, 2013

    I do not support this change. Over the years many of the reasons to be eliminated have been changed to penalties. The ones that are left are for major rule infractions. Combined driving is the only sport I know that people are content to learn the rules by getting penalties or being eliminated (are content or blame the officials). The Training level drivers should, at the very least, know which rule infractions will result in an E before they enter a competition.

  11. Laurel says :

    August 19, 2013

    I do not support this change.
    Thank you

  12. tommcintire says :

    August 22, 2013

    Disagree, with caveat: If the elimination is not due to a safety issue, I feel strongly the Jury / TD should allow the competitor to continue in the competition with understanding that they will not be receiving a ribbon. This is generally the case anyway in most competitions.

  13. daves says :

    August 24, 2013

    Do not support this change.

  14. wgallen says :

    August 28, 2013

    I disagree with the proposed change. If you are eliminated, grow up and
    deal with it.

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