RCS2015#34 – To bring Driving Trial rules in line with CDE rules

2015 RCS #
To bring Driving Trial rules in line with CDE rules
Date Received
Keith Yutzy
Change Date
Open for comments – 22May14
Initial Posting: 22May14

Current Wording – CDAppendixA.2

Driving Trial Divisions may be Training, Preliminary, Intermediate or Advanced divisions.

Suggested Wording

Driving Trial Divisions may be Training, Preliminary, Intermediate or ADS Advanced (Intermediate II or whatever the ADS Advanced is renamed) divisions.

Reason for change

To bring driving trials rules in line with the CDE rules. A driving trial is a lower level competition than a CDE and since CDE’s are only allowed ADS Advanced than this should also apply to driving trials.

4 Response(s)

  1. Linda Yutzy says :

    September 18, 2014

    I agree that there should not be an “Advanced” level in Driving Trials and Arena Trials. Intermediate-II was developed to fill that need and should replace Advanced.

    1. marc says :

      September 18, 2014

      Intermediate II is still a flawed attempt at promoting a hybrid level. The inference that it was developed to fill the need for something that was already established is utter hogwash and was never discussed by CDC at the time. The resulting Intermediate II was put forward so a select few CDE’s did not have to be USEF competitions to offer something to Advanced competitors and the few competitors that were ready to experience Advanced Dressage and Cones for the first time. Are we to now mandate FEI presentation carriages at Driving Trials and Arena Trials? That is what the Intermediate II rules would do.

  2. Zantke says :

    September 21, 2014

    I agree with Marc, Intermediate II is for CDE’s and has nothing to do with HDT’s and ADT’s.

  3. keithy says :

    October 4, 2014

    With the new USEF/FEI levels, reference Article 901.4, the Advanced level is now allowed in a DT style format so why not require the DT’s and ADT’s that want to offer the Advanced division to offer them under the USEF/FEI instead of ADS. The ADS should leave all Advanced level competitions to the USEF/FEI.
    Since the Advanced division is not permitted at ADS CDE’s then why should the Advanced division be permitted at ADS DT’s & ADT’s which are lower level competitions. Allowing the Advanced division at DT’s and ADT’s is what caused the creation of the Intermediate II (ADS Advanced) division in the first place because some competition offer the ADS Advanced DT along with the ADS CDE. The Intermediate II division was created to remove the Advanced division from ADS competitions and then provide an opportunity for ADS competitors to try the Advanced Dressage and Cones without having to enter a USEF/FEI event. With the Intermediate II division available, the only reason why a competition would want to offer Advanced at the DT’s & ADT’s is to have 6 gates in the marathon obstacles. With the new USEF/FEI levels, if these competitions want 6 gates in the marathon obstacles they now have that option available by becoming a USEF/FEI recognized event.

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