- 2014 RCS #
- 19
- Summary
- Wrist bracelet to indicate Waiver signed
- Date Received
- 01Jun13
- Proponent
- Simon Rosenman
- Change Date
- Next Rulebook
- Status
- Closed for comments: 01Sep13
Not Recommended: 15Sep13 - Activity
- Initial Posting: 01Jun13
Current Wording – Article 126.15 – Responsibility of Management
none
Suggested Wording – Article 126.15 – Responsibility of Management
Waiver identification: Management shall provide and install a non-transferable wrist bracelet to each person signing the ADS Disclaimer. No person at an ADS-recognized event shall rider on or in a vehicle anywhere at the event location without such identity readily displayed. Management, officials, or volunteers responsible for safety checks, entrance to competition arenas, and or section starters on the marathon may stop any vehicle with persons not displaying this identification.
Reason for change
To readily identify anyone on or in a vehicle that has not signed the ADS Disclaimer.
katie whaley says :
August 2, 2013disagree too much management
Amanda Horton says :
August 2, 2013Disagree: the proposal mandates a practice that would be extremely difficult to administer.
chateaulog says :
August 2, 2013disapprove— too much managment
MichaelRidge says :
August 3, 2013This seems an unnecessary added expense for organizers. Most shows I attend do not give out a competitor number until the driver signs a waiver.
As a competitor, I don’t like the idea that a large number of people that I can’t identify can feel that it is their duty to bar me from the ring. When I wear a jacket and gloves, a wristband doesn’t show.
There doesn’t seem to be any benefit in return for irritating competitors and increasing the expense of running a show.
suecapt@yahoo.com says :
August 3, 2013Disagree: Too hard to see a bracelet when wearing long sleeves/gloves. The bracelet might get caught in the reins or whip, especially persons like me who do not normally wear “jewelry” when they drive.
shadowbrook says :
August 4, 2013I agree to hard and time consuming to patrol. Have anyone riding on carriage other then driver and navigator sign a waiver too.
MikeRider says :
August 5, 2013Disagree with this proposal – I think it burdens show secretaries and other individuals too much to enforce the waiver issue. I typically put in the prize list “the driver is responsible to make sure every person on his or her vehicle has signed the waiver…failure to do so may result in elimination from the competition.” I have entries coming in with 3-4 signatures a piece, those folks would need to show up at the office and take time from the secretary to 1. verify that they have actually signed the form before the show and 2. verify that the individual is who the claim to be. Too much work for not enough benefit.
Marjean McIntyre says :
August 5, 2013Disagree. Although it may sound good in theory, as an organizer for 5 years, this would be a really big nightmare to add to an already really full plate. I am not aware of a big issue out there that needs addressed. Have there been or is there an issue with the insurance company that they are requesting this? Unless the insurance company is requiring it. NO.
hoofnit says :
August 6, 2013I cannot support this proposal. It adds expense, with no known benefit. It ads management time, with no known benefit. A wrist band is not easily seen with gloves and jackets. Pretty much what everyone above has already commented. If there was a benefit to be seen other that a disclaimer signed…….
bridgesd says :
August 6, 2013Disagree with this proposal – extra expense which will be passed on to competitors, extra time for organizers.
keithy says :
August 6, 2013I do not support this change.
The previous comments cover my concerns.
BMR says :
August 7, 2013Disagree. Leave it up to the show manager.
cathyjo76 says :
August 11, 2013Understand the reasoning of the proposal in this litigious society. but do not support for the reasons listed above.
dannabe33 says :
August 13, 2013Bad idea. Don’t support this.
Price says :
August 13, 2013No. organizers don’t need extra work or expense of adding wrist bracelets.
love2083 says :
August 13, 2013Disagree
susan mcdaniel says :
August 13, 2013I disagree with this proposal for all the reasons already given.
Zantke says :
August 20, 2013I disagree to make this a requirement – management can do that voluntarily if they want to.
hardy
ashemont says :
August 22, 2013Disagree
daves says :
August 24, 2013This IS a good idea. If you want the disclaimer to have the full effect with all parties in all situations, this would do it. Allows properly signed drivers, grooms and others to freely ride on any registered entrant’s vehicle, at any time during the event/show, without having to sign each individual entrant’s entry-form waiver/disclaimer. Removes the burden from the driver to weigh giving that ride or not based on the possibility of that person not having signed. I think legal would suggest that no one ride except those associated with a particular vehicle. Not sure that’s how it always works now nor should it. I support this proposal.
cepinwv says :
August 26, 2013Disagree! Too much management and I have not seen it used any where else in the USA show world. Also, when a person leaves the show grounds, it targets them as a horse person. This can be a good and bad thing.
Andy Marcoux says :
August 28, 2013Disagree. Not practical.
wgallen says :
August 28, 2013I disagree with the proposed change. It imposes an additional burden
on show organizers and competitors, without commensurate benefit. It
is one more thing that will not be enforced.
rules says :
August 30, 2013Comment on behalf of Audrey Bostwick:
No