FEI – RCP CD 960.1.7 New optional warmup 18-041

BOD passed 15Nov17

RC#: 18-041
Rule/Article: CD 960.1.7
Change Type: New
Proponent: Combined Driving Committee
Status: CDC-recommended FEI change proposals (posted 29July17). Subject to FEI approving change and final wording. From CDC 1Nov 17: forward to BOD

New rule from FEI:

960.1.7. As an alternative option to the Phase A there can be used a controlled Warm-up (min 30 minutes before starting time) in a designated warm-up arena with minimum 7000 square metres, properly stewarded, with a judge and veterinarian in attendance. A marathon-type obstacle for preparation purposes should be provided. Horse inspection and bit/harness control 10 minutes before the start in Section B is compulsory.


Reason for Change: An option to replace Section A, Transfer (Walk) and Rest stop with a controlled warm up and horse inspection and bit/harness check is available to the organizer.

14 Response(s)

  1. Roger Cleverly says :

    August 2, 2017

    Not in favor of replacing Section A and Walk. I believe it will emasculate the ‘Marathon’. Part of the challenge of Combined Driving is producing equines physically fit and healthy for a serious test of stamina. I fear this change will encourage the use of breeds with the ‘flash’ for dressage, that cannot handle the current Marathon configuration. This change will put greater weight on dressage scores, and penalize the likes of tough, hardy pony breeds that run Marathon for fun. I reference the major changes in Eventing, removal of steeplechase, 2nd roads and tracks and shortening the cross country jumping course. The reason for these changes appears to have been pressure from the Warmblood breeding community, whose animals could not gallop at the pace of Thoroughbreds and TB crosses. Modern Eventing bears little relationship to the original concept. Do we want the same effect on Combined Driving? I do not.

  2. Alice S says :

    August 3, 2017

    I would like to know the rationale for replacing Section A and Walk with a “controlled warmup.” I agree with Roger Cleverly that it just further reduces the necessity of having a fit horse when already, most of the original sections have been eliminated. I also question how a warm-up especially with a “marathon-type obstacle provided” could be “controlled.” I envision chaos. And what would the required judge be judging? This sounds like a hare-brained, poorly-defined proposal to me but maybe I’m missing something.

  3. Linda Yutzy says :

    August 4, 2017

    I oppose this RCP. Under 18 -042 it says that even the Combined Driving Committee recommends the Driving Trial format rather than a CDE with the Controlled Warmup option. So why even offer it? Just adds more unnecessary confusion. This FEI rule should not apply to ADS-recognized events.

  4. daves says :

    August 6, 2017

    As with all these suggestions, this one doesn’t come with any rationale. One could surmise these proposals are designed to lessen penalties incurred because entries aren’t designed for or prepared to do the deed. Sad. If any proposal can’t pass the infamous “smell test”, then it’s a bad idea. Period. Specifically, here – traditional HDT is better than this. What’s the point?

  5. Price says :

    August 8, 2017

    No. This solves no problems and add expense with extra personnel for no reason to what can be a HDT much more easily.

  6. hacwilkins says :

    August 8, 2017

    Why make things even harder? We would need another obstacle, another judge and more volunteers. this is not a good idea.

  7. wildwoodfarm says :

    August 8, 2017

    I oppose this RCP. The fitness to perform on the marathon, if trained for properly, entails long slow distances as well as faster anaerobic and aerobic work. A fit horse will not only be sounder cardiovascularly but also stronger in the tissue support systems (ligaments and tendons) and this will reduce injuries overall. Allowing people to come with less fit horses (which will surely happen if the marathon is dummied-down) will not promote good horsemanship. Using a controlled warm up in an arena driving trial or HDT might be useful but not in this instance.

  8. Sharon Waite says :

    August 9, 2017

    Daves is correct: this proposal just reduces a CDE to a DT run over three days. Totally unnecessary, does not help low-level competitors acquire the skills and knowledge to prepare their equines to advance through the levels. Wildwoodfarm’s comment should be studied by all beginning drivers/CDE competitors! (And many who are rushing their advancement to the next level!)

  9. theresal says :

    August 15, 2017

    I think this is unnecessary, we already have the Driving Trials format.

  10. AndyMarcoux says :

    August 29, 2017

    As the others have said… we already have a format for this in the rulebook. This rule change is unnecessary.

  11. nis75p06 says :

    August 29, 2017

    RCP not needed if we stop blindly following the ridiculousness of the newest FEI proposed “last transfer”.

  12. ematulich says :

    August 29, 2017

    This is an FEI change that basically allows them to do a DT. We already have a DT, so all we need to do is say “The provisions of this rule do not apply, see Appendix for DT”

  13. daves says :

    August 29, 2017

    “The provisions of this rule do not apply” may be the ideal response but no where in the proposal is that language mentioned. Details!

  14. marc says :

    August 31, 2017

    It should be obvious that this will not directly apply to ADS competitions. We have Driving Trials rules in place. It also can not be an option at an ADS recognized CDE, unless offered in conjunction with an FEI or USE sanctioned competition because there wouldn’t be Steward to supervise the warm-up. In the small chance that an FEI or USE competition would exercise this option, it would be a shame to count out ADS recognition because we couldn’t print the option in the ADS rule book. ADS members need to understand that ALL the rules are, in fact, FEI rules. The ADS writes exceptions to them to serve the lower levels. In this case the committee discussed a reference to to Appendix A at the end of this Article, directing everyone to the ADS Driving Trial rules.

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